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Posted on April 27, 2008 by Lola

So I’m on MSN talking to my boy Jermaine about getting something to eat, and one thing led to another, and we found ourselves talking about music. Of course the conversation got in deep because he’s a big fan of more “conscious” hip-hop where rappers are more honest in their music and in the lifestyle they live, rather than the gangsta rap where artists embody an image that can sell, but doesn’t necessarily apply to their day-to-day lifestyle. ahhhh well..I can get pretty vocal about things, so I went off on a few different directions. I posted something like this with my boy Marlon before, peep this!!

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These friggin dummies went on strike again. says:
oh ok. so when im in the hood. . .I’ll scream ur name to come outside.

- L o l a – www.iLUVLOLA.BLOGSPOT.COM says:
lol…holla…I AM the hood…lol

These friggin dummies went on strike again. says:
soemthing like that.
These friggin dummies went on strike again. says:
ssauga a hood.
These friggin dummies went on strike again. says:
geeez

- L o l a – www.iLUVLOLA.BLOGSPOT.COM says:
lol…whatever

These friggin dummies went on strike again. says:
lol

- L o l a – www.iLUVLOLA.BLOGSPOT.COM says:
I don’t beleive in hoods here period. i beleive in impoverished neighborhoods
- L o l a – www.iLUVLOLA.BLOGSPOT.COM says:
i beleive in poor living and poor people
- L o l a – www.iLUVLOLA.BLOGSPOT.COM says:
when was the first crack epidemic that swept up Canada?or the canadian HOODS?
- L o l a – www.iLUVLOLA.BLOGSPOT.COM says:
i think people make hoods as dangerous as they want to be

These friggin dummies went on strike again. says:
Yeap..lets blame BET dammit

- L o l a – www.iLUVLOLA.BLOGSPOT.COM says:
i would blame people, not BET. for not being more educated or for not seeking a better learning system for themselves
- L o l a – www.iLUVLOLA.BLOGSPOT.COM says:
like BET there’s MTV, VH1; they are entertainment channels. not education channels
- L o l a – www.iLUVLOLA.BLOGSPOT.COM says:
it’s on the parents responsibility to educate their child
- L o l a – www.iLUVLOLA.BLOGSPOT.COM says:
so if you see rappers coming out saying FUCK THE POLICE or the HOOD stand up…you educate your child to UNDERSTAND the culture…to appreciate it, to accept it, and to respect it, not to emulate it

These friggin dummies went on strike again. says:
its all bullshit to me.

- L o l a – www.iLUVLOLA.BLOGSPOT.COM says:
honestly, anything in life can be what you want it to be

These friggin dummies went on strike again. says:
cause at the same time these programs still need to take some sort of accountabilty too.

- L o l a – www.iLUVLOLA.BLOGSPOT.COM says:
for?

These friggin dummies went on strike again. says:
parents can be to blame too.

- L o l a – www.iLUVLOLA.BLOGSPOT.COM says:
what do they need to take the blame for? for showing videos of rappers slapping stripper’s asses?ain’t nobody put a gun to the female’s head. they WANTED to do it

These friggin dummies went on strike again. says:
but its the programming like b.e.t to not program that stuff either.

- L o l a – www.iLUVLOLA.BLOGSPOT.COM says:
why not? they’re trying to make money. This is capitalism
- L o l a – www.iLUVLOLA.BLOGSPOT.COM says:
profit profit profit
- L o l a – www.iLUVLOLA.BLOGSPOT.COM says:
you can’t allow your life to depend on the judgement of others and on other people’s choices

These friggin dummies went on strike again. says:
still should be socially aware of what ur doing, the same reason why everyone wanting to be like The Game.

- L o l a – www.iLUVLOLA.BLOGSPOT.COM says:
do you know how much horror is depicted in porn sites? From women being tied up, to having foreign object inserted in them for pleasure and all this other nasty shit. ain’t no one stopping that shit. So then what do we do? Do we keep pointing the finger at the media? At the rappers…for puting out what they FEEL is the right to express themselves

These friggin dummies went on strike again. says:
they express that shit cause they know it will sell

- L o l a – www.iLUVLOLA.BLOGSPOT.COM says:
you think the GAME was the first to say shoot shoot bang bang kill kill?

These friggin dummies went on strike again. says:
50cent aint banging no more, he aint shooting up nobody
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he aint in the hood
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why is he on his 4th album and talking what he’s gonna do to some1

- L o l a – www.iLUVLOLA.BLOGSPOT.COM says:
that’s a right HE holds. You can’t censor his voice. He can speak the truth or he can talk shit. That’s for YOU to understand and decipher

These friggin dummies went on strike again. says:
music is about evolving, and when u keep on talking the same shit, it becomes mundane and no1 wants to hear that shit no more

- L o l a – www.iLUVLOLA.BLOGSPOT.COM says:
how do you know what music is all about?? who are you to say music is this and music is that?

These friggin dummies went on strike again. says:
cause u aint doint that no more.

- L o l a – www.iLUVLOLA.BLOGSPOT.COM says:

did you MAKE music? did you START music? can you really DEFINE music?
- L o l a – www.iLUVLOLA.BLOGSPOT.COM says:
so Marilyn Manson should be hung about what HE preaches?
- L o l a – www.iLUVLOLA.BLOGSPOT.COM says:
i understand what you’re saying about rappers taking responsibility in what they do and staying true to the art, rather than to their financials because people look up to them as role models and emulate what they see on TV and what not

These friggin dummies went on strike again. says:
im not jus saying rappers but im speaking artist in general
These friggin dummies went on strike again. says:
cause yes, that is what music is about

- L o l a – www.iLUVLOLA.BLOGSPOT.COM says:
but you have to understand that for every rapper or artist there is 1100000 other things that can fuck up a teenagers attitude towards society…Like the millions of porn sites that show men tying up women, torturing them, poking at them, peeing on them

These friggin dummies went on strike again. says:
yea no doubt.

- L o l a – www.iLUVLOLA.BLOGSPOT.COM says:
like the videogames that show people kill people, like the movies, like EVERYTHING that is
out there today

These friggin dummies went on strike again. says:
war is a big one too.

- L o l a – www.iLUVLOLA.BLOGSPOT.COM says:
war is a concept. No one really KNOWS war until they lived through it. Until war is in YOUR home, it’s just something that happens “over there” something we don’t see over here. something we’re not willing to accept
- L o l a – www.iLUVLOLA.BLOGSPOT.COM says:
they sit here and talk about rappers saying this, and not being socially responsible when america has tropps killing all kinds of people all over the world for what? for money, for natural resources, so that the americans and their alleys can live a better, healthier life

These friggin dummies went on strike again. says:
they say that because rappers are the voice right now

- L o l a – www.iLUVLOLA.BLOGSPOT.COM says:
i think it’s not fair, that people put all these expectations on rappers or musicians period
- L o l a – www.iLUVLOLA.BLOGSPOT.COM says:
music is understood differently by different people
- L o l a – www.iLUVLOLA.BLOGSPOT.COM says:
a song about suicide is not going to affect you, the same way that it affected someone who’s already tried to commit it, or someone who’s had a family member pass away because of it.
- L o l a – www.iLUVLOLA.BLOGSPOT.COM says:
just like images of the hood won’t cause the same type of effect in MY memory and evoke the same emotion as they would in someone who grew up in the hood.
- L o l a – www.iLUVLOLA.BLOGSPOT.COM says:
music is understood by each person the way we want it to and the way we allow it to
- L o l a – www.iLUVLOLA.BLOGSPOT.COM says:
i think PEOPLE should take more responsibility for their actions. This society is based and built on the freedom of speech and if we want to be able to maintain that freedom, we ALL have to make an effort to respect others, in whatever area of life they live in. If you were to censor the words bitch, hoe, slut, from music lyrics because they misrepresent females and are disrespectful towards females then the government should censor ALL the porn sites that show any sort of violence inflicted upon females, children, or adults because that can also be a very influential source

These friggin dummies went on strike again. says:
it is..

- L o l a – www.iLUVLOLA.BLOGSPOT.COM says:
and then they should start cesonring all the movies that show women getting called sluts or whores and all the videogames that show violence against women and all the TV shows
- L o l a – www.iLUVLOLA.BLOGSPOT.COM says:
..it’s just a cycle. i just dont think you can point the finger at ONE thing because it’s convenient to do so

These friggin dummies went on strike again. says:
cause no1 wants to speak on it.

- L o l a – www.iLUVLOLA.BLOGSPOT.COM says:
well it’s not fair that rappers are the only ones getting the heat for it cuz they got some records that say shoot shoot bang bang

These friggin dummies went on strike again. says:
women have been put in that sorta situation for the longest time. but the steps women have taken have been big but not big enough
These friggin dummies went on strike again. says:
still lots of changes to make.

- L o l a – www.iLUVLOLA.BLOGSPOT.COM says:
i LOVE the bang bang, shoot shoot, kill kill lyrics. Do u see me going up to kill anyone? Do you see me wilding out? do you see me trynna be 50 cent? i have never even gotten in a fight…why? because i educate myself..from what’s right or wrong, from when to take something for what it is, and for when to incorporate it in my lifestyle
- L o l a – www.iLUVLOLA.BLOGSPOT.COM says:
my friends listen to that kind of music…are they kilers? no they most certainly aren’t

These friggin dummies went on strike again. says:
u ever wonder why jay may have change they way he raps???
These friggin dummies went on strike again. says:
and what he talks about ??

- L o l a – www.iLUVLOLA.BLOGSPOT.COM says:
because he doesn’t liive that lifestyle anymore and that’s GOOD FOR HIM. he’s an honest guy. let me go shake his hand. Not every rapper is honest. this is a BUSINESS, people are trying to make money off of this so they can take their ENTIRE family living in the hood and get it off-
- L o l a – www.iLUVLOLA.BLOGSPOT.COM says:
how they gonna do that? by making music that sells, making music for the consumer
- L o l a – www.iLUVLOLA.BLOGSPOT.COM says:
jay already DONE put out 12 albums. He’s DONE talking about his killing days. he’s almost 40 now. his audience doesn’t beleive him anymore if he was to say i shoot or i kill
- L o l a – www.iLUVLOLA.BLOGSPOT.COM says:
50 has only put 3 albums out and is one of the richest rappers i know. The man is a BUSINESS before he’s a rapper and i appreciate THAT for what it is

These friggin dummies went on strike again. says:
in this time of music..
These friggin dummies went on strike again. says:
i think consumer are finally seeing through the bullshit.
These friggin dummies went on strike again. says:
thats why sales have been affected in such a way. the market is over saturated of the same thing. Its boring and its not new or different
These friggin dummies went on strike again. says:
evolve is all im saying if ur trying to be in this business
These friggin dummies went on strike again. says:
and this is also why canadian artist will never blow here, cause we’re too busy watching what our folks south of us are doing instead of doing something different invovated.
These friggin dummies went on strike again. says:
no1 wants to admit but k-os is like one of our biggest acts currently…
These friggin dummies went on strike again. says:
and no1 wants to give him the credit…
These friggin dummies went on strike again. says:
i couldnt care less about k-os but i like that he trying something different
These friggin dummies went on strike again. says:
im not even a big fan of lil wayne but he’s trying something different.
These friggin dummies went on strike again. says:
u can look at it like business or getting ur fam out the hood…but theres a thin line between that and selling ur soul for it..

- L o l a – www.iLUVLOLA.BLOGSPOT.COM says:
yeah, i totally agree with what you’re saying but i think your point is driven from a FAN’s perspective. As a fan i understand where your concern comes in…10000%
- L o l a – www.iLUVLOLA.BLOGSPOT.COM says:
im just saying, selling your soul is still a right you hold for your music, your voice, your opinons, and your thoughts . You don’t have to buy that music. you dont have to spend your money on it..you may have your opinions on it but it’s not fair for you to censor it because you disagree with their moral values and ethics
- L o l a – www.iLUVLOLA.BLOGSPOT.COM says:
if you think rappers are selling out, that sucks…is it polluting the entire industry?…maybe? But to say that they should be censored because they are vying the minds of the youth
listening to the music is taking it to the extreme because that youth is brought in this world by a mother and a father…and if they cannot take enough responsibility to educate that child
- L o l a – www.iLUVLOLA.BLOGSPOT.COM says:
and if the government is not instilling proper values, and ethics and teaching them the right from wrong, why should an artist THAT WANTS to sell out be held responsible for a child that his immediate environment has ALREADY FAILED?
- L o l a – www.iLUVLOLA.BLOGSPOT.COM says:
so point the finger at the government, at the schools, for not doing a good enough job in educating our children on racism, genocide, drugs,…for not being honest…for not opening their eyes…for not taking the time to be thorough…for trying to shove history, and geology, and mathematics down a child’s throat for 8 years, and then launching them in the real world with no social skills and no real social comprehension of the world around them

These friggin dummies went on strike again. says:
yes, my opinions are based from a fans perspective first…
These friggin dummies went on strike again. says:
2nd its from some1 who has been in it as well.
These friggin dummies went on strike again. says:
im just saying that like my boy he’s been trying to blow for a while now.
These friggin dummies went on strike again. says:
he got a buzz for awhile
These friggin dummies went on strike again. says:
then folks were saying he’s on the whole eminem shit.
These friggin dummies went on strike again. says:
and now he’s has his ep about to come in may all done and i think its his best work yet
These friggin dummies went on strike again. says:
i think he’s nice as an writer but what he was writing about then…i thought it was shit.
These friggin dummies went on strike again. says:
now he’s actually being honest with his work and not going for the formula that he thinks might work…

- L o l a – www.iLUVLOLA.BLOGSPOT.COM says:
i know what u’re saying, trust me. i really do. I think being honest is the best way you can be, as an artist, as a person, as an entertainer. I think honesty feeds you no bullshit

These friggin dummies went on strike again. says:
cause thats just what the music is based on…

- L o l a – www.iLUVLOLA.BLOGSPOT.COM says:
sure
- L o l a – www.iLUVLOLA.BLOGSPOT.COM says:
for some is bullshit, for some it’s reality

These friggin dummies went on strike again. says:
so when the shit is fake i think folks can see through it.

- L o l a – www.iLUVLOLA.BLOGSPOT.COM says:
i don’t think so, or ELSE people wouldn’t be trying to censor hiphop if people could see right through it. they’d let people talk shit

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